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Why does AIIMS, New Delhi internationally rank way lower than Chinese universities and other world class universities?

Why does AIIMS, New Delhi internationally rank way lower than Chinese universities and other world class universities?Why does AIIMS, New Delhi internationally rank way lower than Chinese universities and other world class universities?2021-11-25 20:06:02Mr_空

It's a pretty genuine question ! Why should I enter into a rat race to contest for a far lower ranked medical college ? Look, I got a world renowned university in China(Russia/Ukraine) offering the same course at a decent fees..it even promises to teach in English for a little extra bucks !
Well, its almost like flashback, I have argued this whole lot with my parents 5-6 years back. The answer was NO..my parents didn't put reasons, they just told me there are no free meals !
Now I understood what they meant, you have to walk that extra mile..nothing in the world is free. Let me explain :

1.Don't you believe in rankings ! An apex institute AIIMS/IIT/IIM should not be judged by rankings of external agencies, who don't take into considerations Indian scenario.What produced from institute are peoples! Rating agencies don't consider the fact that AIIMS (or others) are crumbled under patient load, are poorly funded and lack sometimes even basic infrastructure or departments, the salaries are so meagre that Doctors are hardly motivated to do research work, there are (almost) no international faculties or students which are norm in other colleges. Yet not surprisingly, they produce world finest clinicians at par with any other top medical school worldwide.From Prof. Vinay Kumar to others AIIMS ( PGI or others )alumni's are almost the backbone of healthcare of many developed nations .So please don't compare the rankings with the quality of student produced !

2.Don't forget the screening !I have seen people coming from from Russia or China even failing to qualify the basic MCI screening. People are forced to join coaching (DAMS and others even have a course on it )and struggle to pass even in two- three attempts.

3.Foreign funda ! Well, medical isn't engineering, alas !Only a little part can be taught in class room. You need to develop clinical skills, for which you need to talk to patient, understand them, spend thousand of hours in wards,but foreign fundas are different .Since, you will not be able to practice in the country of your graduation, you will always be at loss to those who did the graduation from India.Even if they do so from a poor ranked medical college.

4.It's not about infrastructure : If that would have been so, all private medical colleges would have produced better doctors than government and every one would have migrated to China.Govt college have huge patient's load, so in spite of poor infrastructure, student have much more exposure there than in, private college & obviously more than any foreign college !

5.Your decision :First thing first-Be very clear( until you want to practice in the same country)a foreign medical graduate will always be at disadvantage in India !
But that doesn't mean people don't make up, they do and many end up well ! So go for a college with a good reputation, with good Indian diaspora, English as teaching language..in short do a good research before making a decision.Be prepared to give a screening test right from begining. And if you are determined enough, everything will end up fine !

Summing up, if you think you have a informed and calculated decision, go for that college in China and Russia !It of course skips the rat race for a while ! But remember, there is no running from the fact that you will have to give screening, sit and prepare again for PG entrance,brush up again your clinical skills..here in India !

Wishing a best of luck in your endeavours !

Why do American universities have, for an equivalent ranking, lower admission rates than European universities?

Why do American universities have, for an equivalent ranking, lower admission rates than European universities?2021-06-20 11:26:23Mr_褚

It is interesting to see how, for an equivalent ranking or level of prestige, American universities have a systematically much lower acceptance rate than in other continents. In my answer to What are the biggest differences between American and European universities?, I had already highlighted the major cultural differences between Europe and the United States that make the college admission process significantly less competitive by nature in Europe, but even for the few schools that benefit from an equivalent reputation and prestige, the acceptance rates remain lower in most countries outside of the United States.

If we take for example the case of Oxford and Cambridge, traditionally seen by American as among the best universities outside the country, we respectively find acceptance rates of about 18.6% and 21.9%. Compared to Harvard’s acceptance rate of about 6%, this seems extremely high, but when you know that there are actually more than 40 colleges in the United States with lower rates, this looks insane! And this is not only about the U.S. or about undergraduate programs, as illustrated for example by this overview of non-U.S. MBA admission statistics.

There are of course many factors to explain these numbers, but I believe two come on top:

1) Stronger self-selection of the candidates before the act of applying

Since applicants don’t have as many options of schools, they can afford to spend a bit more time informing themselves about the universities they target, and therefore become more realistic about their true chances. To some extent, I believe some cultural elements also play a role, such as the somewhat lower risk aversion of Americans and the popular belief that “everything is possible for those who try”.

But another much more important factor linked to self-selection is the clarity of the admission conditions. In many European universities, the minimal admission criteria are extremely well defined, even for international students. I think for example of LSE’s very high formal grade requirements, which directly tell to everybody who don’t meet these conditions that they don’t have any chance. In the same spirit, universities who inherited of the German culture, such as the University of St-Gallen in Switzerland, like to document very precisely the selection procedure of their top programs. It is interesting to read for instance the formalism of the admission process of St-Gall’s SIM Master program, ranked best Master in Management in the world by the Financial Times for many consecutive years now. In contrast, most top universities in the United States will simply tell their prospective students that “GPA plays a role in admission”, without clearly defining that role.

2) Lower number of applications per candidate

This is mostly due to the simple fact that in other countries you cannot apply to as many school as in the US: since the countries are smaller, they don’t have as many schools. And in the UK for example, with the UCAS system, applications to undergraduate programmes are also limited to 5 nationwide (which also forces prospective students to choose wisely where to apply and not to waste their chances on top universities where they would never be accepted anyway).

It is easy to run a simulation to understand how this affects things. Imagine you have a country A with 3 equally desirable schools and 30 equal candidates who each apply to each school, and a country B with 10 equally desirable schools and 100 equal candidates who each apply to each school. If a candidate is admitted to multiple schools, he randomly accepts the offer of one of them and rejects the others. Schools must decide of the optimal acceptance rate so that they will on average have 5 students who accept their offer. In country A, each school receives 30 applications and needs to find 5 students, and in country B each school receives 100 applications but also need to find 5 students. On average, schools will need to send offers to a bit more candidates than they want to accept because some will reject their offer if they receive multiple ones (the probability of having overlapping offers is slightly different in both country, but not significant). Overall, what we observe if we run such a simulation is that the equilibrium acceptance rate necessary to achieve the desired intake is significantly higher in country A, even if the universities have the same structure and decision process (I invite you to actually crunch the numbers if you want to precisely measure the difference). Of course, in real life every candidate is not identical so the model would be a bit more complex, but the basic idea remains.

Why are the colleges, universities, and studies in the US way more expensive than in Europe or any other country?

Why are the colleges, universities, and studies in the US way more expensive than in Europe or any other country?2021-06-15 12:16:02Mr_佟

Because we made loans available and allowed even public, state schools to be run like for-profit businesses.

There are pros and cons to running schools for profit.

A pro is that schools sucked in a massive amount of money from students through student loans, which helped them build some pretty impressive facilities (dorms, unbelievably vast libraries, big computer centers, tons of research and development, massive university hospitals, mammoth stadiums, etc.) Not to mention that loads of money helps impressive universities attract impressive talent.

Corporations and private donors also contribute. So do taxpayers and the college’s own financial investments. But when hundreds of thousands of dollars in federally-guaranteed loans are offered, sometimes to individual students, campus administrators saw the chance to rake in tons of cash. So they charged higher admission rates.

The story isn’t that simplistic. (Students begged for expensive campus add-ons, and most schools in America charge under $10,000 a year for classes.) But the ease of getting a big loan is exactly why many American schools charge so much.

It’s absurdly easy to get a $25,000 loan. When I was younger and dumber — even dumber — and had practically no credit, I stupidly took out $25,000 to take classes at Indiana University, where I’d enrolled in an extended bachelors degree program, even though I’d already completed my bachelors degree. I’d gone into zero debt for my bachelors, and believed money grew on trees, so I just took out the loan to mess around. Dumbest idea ever. And nobody stopped me. Honestly, it’s a scam.

The cons of easy loans are that they’ve broken the back of up to 45 million Americans. Only 56% of Federal student loans are actively being repaid. 44% are either in default or deferral. Convincing so many kids to go to college, and throwing loans at them, created a massive debt crisis.

Compound interest added to that debt is crushing 45 million Americans’ credit scores, making it less likely that they’ll ever own a home. In some cases, credit is so bad, they can’t qualify for a car loan — despite having had $100,000 or more offered to them for an education, at age 18, on the sole basis of having been admitted to a university… which isn’t difficult, if you’re just trying to get into any school that will admit you. Again, with the ease of getting a loan, universities are more likely to admit unprepared students, because: easy $$$$.

Incredibly, these are the same schools that turn around and preach social justice — while participating in screwing up young people’s finances.

I don’t know if we need taxpayer-funded education. (It’s never “free.” Somebody pays for it.) What we really need is just more oversight of loans and college operating expenses. And we need competent financial advisors assigned to each student.

I have degrees in several “worthless” fields. (“Worthless” in the sense that there are no jobs outside of academia, so you’ll never pay back your loan unless you become a professor or hop into another sector of the job market entirely.) Personally, I think that for study in fields with terrible job prospects, student loans should only be approved if you enroll in a dual degree program, one that involves highly-specific professional training for in-demand careers. The other component of your degree has to be in a field likely to get you a decent job. You can major in history or flute performance, that’s good stuff, but you only get a loan if you also study education and then get a teaching license. Or get a library degree, a computer science degree, study business… you get the drift.

If a college education only sets you back a couple thousand dollars, then I guess it’s fine to write a thesis on the 17th-century Belgian wool industry or the flute sonatas of Frederick the Great. If you’re racking up 100 grand in loans, you better damn well study something else.

Why is AIIMS New Delhi better in comparison to other medical colleges?

Why is AIIMS New Delhi better in comparison to other medical colleges?2021-06-27 17:50:52Mr_乐正

AIIMS is one of the best Institutes in the Country and always the first choice of Medical students.

The reason behind it are as follows :

  1. Fees is low as compared to facilities provided in the College
  2. The Clinical Training is good as large number of patients of different type regularly visit the hospital
  3. Students get adjusted to handle a lot of people at a single time
  4. The Location is in the Heart of Delhi i.e. South Ex Delhi so it is convenient to reach from any point in the Country.
  5. The atmosphere and crowd of students who study in AIIMS are very good.

There are many reasons but best among them we have told to you.

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Why does universities charge more than colleges?

Why does universities charge more than colleges? 2021-08-29 09:35:51Mr_孟

Because they are more credible and can get away with it.

Why does Cambridge University have a higher acceptance rate than other elite universities in England?

Why does Cambridge University have a higher acceptance rate than other elite universities in England?2021-06-25 00:54:05Mr_秦

Admit rate is based on “ Admits/No of applications.”

There are two critical issues.

a) Applicants can only apply to Oxford or Cambridge, which automatically cuts the number of applicants who apply to Cambridge (those who apply to Oxford are gone)

b) In the UK you can only apply to 5 schools. Unless you are a VERY strong applicant, you will not waste one of your spots for Oxford or Cambridge.

In summary, the system forces many applicant to NOT apply to Cambridge, which appears to increases the admit rate. So, DO NOT look at the admit rate - it is NOT a lottery - Looks at the profile of the admitted students.

Why do most Indonesian top universities not rank very well in world universities ranks?

Why do most Indonesian top universities not rank very well in world universities ranks?2021-06-17 03:21:06Mr_仉

You know, as an alumni of UI. I think it doesn't really matter if you rank at 200th. Can you tell how many universities all around the world?
Here is a short answer from Afaq Ahmad about How many institutions of higher education are there in the world?

"The revised twenty-fifth edition of World List of Universities and Other Institutions of Higher Education includes more information on each institution in over 180 countries. There are over 16,000 institutions listed with up-to-date information verified from the governing body of education in each country. Details on institutions include: name of institution in both English and the local language, postal address, website, email and telephone and fax numbers, officers' names with direct contact details, list of faculties, departments and major subject areas."
World List of Universities, 25th Edition: And Other Institutions of Higher Education (World List of Universities & Other Institutions of Higher Education): International Association of Universities: 9781403992529: Amazon.com: Books

So, assuming that Indonesian University rank 200th, I think it is quite good. Although you have to remember too about several things that may become factors here:

University internationalization

Language Barrier
While they are top universities, but do note that language barrier may still become a problem, even among top rated universities. I have seen so many high rank profiles within universities that still have language barrier even though they are super-smart or have wide knowledge as an expert in his area.

You can see here that Universitas Padjajaran as one of the best among universities in the world as well as in Asia. Ranking Web of Universities, however they also admit that they have to be more internationalization especially in English language. They even have a special course for that: Hari Ini, Dosen Mulai Ikuti Pelatihan Peningkatan Kompetensi Berbahasa Inggris

Dalam rangka peningkatan kompetensi berbahasa Inggris, Bagian Kerja Sama Unpad mengadakan pelatihan bahasa Inggris bagi para dosen. “Ini upaya kita untuk meningkatkan daya saing para dosen Unpad. Ini menjadi penting karena kita harus berkompetisi dengan yang lain dalam hal apa pun termasuk kemampuan berbahasa Inggris,” ujar Direktur Pengembangan SDM, Handarto, Page on s.tp., M.Agr., Ph.D saat membuka acara pelatihan.

one of UI student experience regarding English language: AidilRizali in 13 Tragedi Universitas Indonesia

Ada dosen yang ketika tahu saya rajin berbahasa Inggris dia bilang: ‘Ngapain berbahasa Inggris, ini kan di Indonesia.’ Lha saya ini kan mahasiswa yang sedang belajar bahasa Inggris, ya kalau mau mahir ya musti latihan terus dong. Kalau saya mahasiswa bahasa Arab atau Rusia atau Cina yang saya juga pasti akan berusaha berbahasa tersebut. Mau di Indonesia atau dimanapun juga di dunia kalau mau bisa suatu bahasa ya musti dipraktekkan.

Ada dosen yang mengajar bahasa Inggris tetapi bahasa Inggrisnya belepotan. Ini juga berlaku bagi dosen yang mengajar bahasa lain. Nah bagaimana kira-kira kualitas murid yang diajar oleh dosen yang tidak terlalu mengerti bahasa yang diajarkannya

Indonesian universities also teach their lessons in Bahasa Indonesia. You can see: What language do Indonesians use in their universities?

So, you can see that language barrier in Indonesia still a problem among public (Penggunaan Bahasa Inggris di Indonesia Diklaim Masih Rendah | Republika Online) even in top universities.

Curriculum adaptacies
The curriculum itself is not mainly a problem, as a matter of fact, I know very well that several top universities have foreign students or exchange students or even have international class program that have been through lots of adjustment with international curriculum.

However, even though it is not a main problem, Indonesian universities tend to be a jack of all trades instead of an ace for a skill. You can learn lots and lots of things that some might find it is not too necessary for this reason.

Lack of Research
This problem is a major well-known in Indonesian Universities. It is widely known that even thesis for post-graduate structured and written in Bahasa Indonesia. Even so, not too many lecturers and universities publish their research in international journals.

The researches are well kept, but for their own universities. Compare to the other top universities, even in China, they make post-graduate thesis not in the form of Indonesian's thesis. Even in top universities, the thesis needed to be finished in Bahasa, my brother lives in China and I know very well that he had to create 2 versions of it. 1 in Mandarin and other in English, in journal form, ready to be published. How can someone know our university if we don't published anything.

Top universities try to overcome that problem by telling their students to published their research, and encourage them to publish it in international journals. But this is not a mandatory for the students and to be published in international journals, you need to choose the journals carefully. There are lots of journals out there, but to get into the well-known ones, the majority still have to pay for it. Aside from adhere with their guidelines, especially for language barriers that to be published you need to write it in English properly.

There are several problems related to this:

Kesadaran Riset di Indonesia Masih Sangat Rendah

"Indonesia di tingkat 108, masih sangat tertinggal dibanding negara Asia lainnya. Contoh bahwa Indonesia masih sangat tertinggal adalah, seringkali kita membahas apa yang ada di hilir, tetapi luput membahas bagaimana cara meningkatkan proses ini semua," ujar Anis.

Menurut pendiri Indonesia Mengajar, untuk melihat peristiwa tersebut, kita perlu melakukan pendekatan dengan tindakan yang melibatkan masyarakat.

"Kita belum mempunyai guru yang membuat generasi depan kita sadar akan hal ini (penelitian). Pembelajaran itulah yang belum ada di sini untuk masa depan Indonesia. Kita juga harus menamamkan pendidikan mulai dari usia dini, bukan hanya berbasis perkotaan," tutupnya.

The Crisis of Public Universities in Indonesia Today

Funding for scientific research facilities remains a major problem in Indonesia, not least because, as some critics point out, the government will not meet its constitutional obligations. The constitution requires that 20% of the state budget goes to education but at present the figure is far below that. As a result, Indonesian funding does not match Singapore's, which takes account of overall national economic planning. Education reform campaigners take this as further ammunition in their struggle to overhaul the system.

Publikasi Ilmuwan Rendah Mengapa

Publikasi ilmiah ilmuwan Indonesia masih rendah. Ini menunjukkan bahwa denyut nadi kehidupan ipteks di kalangan kaum terpelajar belum optimal. Pertama, naskah ilmiah yang masuk terlalu sedikit sehingga mengurangi derajat selektivitas. Kedua, kurang optimalnya peran reviewer. Artikel yang dikirimkan kepada tim reviewer untuk ditelaah, berbulan- bulan tidak dikembalikan sehingga memperlambat pemuatan. Ketiga, rata-rata dana penelitian untuk dosen/ peneliti terlalu kecil sehingga ipteks yang dihasilkan tidak layak untuk publikasi ilmiah.

Aside that, even though the university want to be the best, sometimes funding is still a problem for their activities. see this:

INDONESIA: Universities' poor world ranking probed

The matter of state funding was addressed by ITB rector Djoko Santoso who pointed out that ITB's annual research funds of US$3.8 million were insufficient to support a comprehensive programme. Those at other universities were smaller still.

There is a low level of awareness among Indonesian politicians of the need to reform the education sector. Consequently, pleading for greater financing tends to fall on deaf ears.

Meanwhile, Secretary for the State Ministry of Research and Technology, Benyamin Lakitan, thought that Indonesian universities were at a comparative disadvantage to those in English-speaking countries as most scientific journals publish in English and that this explained the relative position. All the more reason, one might argue, for increased funding to be directed to quality translations.

So, there are lots that need to be done before you can achieve better reputation among world universities. I hope this helps.

Why is Princeton consistently ranked lower than Georgia Tech, Purdue and other less prestigious universities in engineering?

Why is Princeton consistently ranked lower than Georgia Tech, Purdue and other less prestigious universities in engineering?2021-06-20 12:25:56Mr_霍

Depends on what your goals and desired major are. If your goals are to make high grades and get a liberal education where you discuss people and policy more than research and applications, you should go to Princeton. If being able to tell someone “I went to Princeton” is more important than the actual education you got, go to Princeton.
If you want to do research and be on a campus of people who are passionate about engineering, where even the “liberal arts” majors talk about cutting edge developments in physics and technology, don’t go to Princeton. If you couldn’t give a crap whether the average Joe on the street is impressed with the name on the top of your diploma, but you do want to impress people in your field with how hard you worked in undergrad, go to Georgia Tech.

I had several friends who did undergrad at Georgia Tech and they worked their butts off to make what would be considered mediocre grades anywhere else (3.5 GPA or so). When they went to get a masters at an Ivy league school, they almost always reported that it was jokingly easy compared to undergrad.
Reading a college guide once a few years ago, Georgia Tech was rated the school where you are most likely to hear students discussing class-related material, technology, and research on the weekends.
The average GPA in my major was a 2.5 (compared to the hyper inflated Ivy League where everyone makes a 3.9 or better), because professors actually challenge students.
Georgia Tech also has the benefit of an athletic program that can rival your average state school, something you won’t find at an ivy.
Georgia Tech’s Aerospace department has the highest level of research funding in the country, roughly double that of 2nd place MIT (or did in 2012).

To answer your question bluntly, Princeton is ranked lower than Georgia Tech or Purdue or Stanford or MIT for engineering because it’s not as good for engineering, it gets the prestige from being good at a lot of other things and also being very very old (by US standards). If you are set on engineering and you’re quite smart go to one of those schools based on which campus you like better. If you are not set on engineering or your status as a member of the 1% is important to you, go to Harvard or Princeton or Yale.

Another word of advice, don’t wear your Princeton or Harvard sweatshirt to campus at Georgia Tech or Purdue - we made fun of the kids who thought it was important to share a status symbol like having considered attending an Ivy.