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How do colleges view online high schools?

How do colleges view online high schools?How do colleges view online high schools?2021-11-25 20:07:02Mr_祖

This depends very much on which online high school.

I know a few things about this because I’ve been a consumer of online education for over 20 years and I am a college counselor to the homeschooling community.

Some online schools are good. Some are not. Good colleges know the difference.

The Common Application has adapted to online education by asking increasingly detailed questions of the students who report that they were in an online school. The students needs to say how many hours each week they were online/in class. The student needs to report how many hours they had 1:1 with a teacher (face-to-face) online, each week.

The answers to these questions are revealing.

Many online high schools are 100% asynchronous and the student might never even speak with a teacher. The online school is essentially an electronic drop-off/pick-up bin and half of what is done by the student never gets read or scrutinized. No college is impressed with this kind of online school.

The GOOD online high schools will charge between $1,500 and $5,000 per class. For example, Stanford OHS is known to colleges as one of the best and it is. That’s because they have really invested in making it good. Each class will meet 2x per week, LIVE, and there will be rules and high expectations. Whereas, The asynchronous classes, where you pick up assignments, do them (more or less) and then upload them….are cheap and it shows.

NOW, regarding learning (not schooling):

Online learning in and of itself can be extremely useful to the intrinsically, highly motivated young person. Kids learn volumes all the time while they are online…just by watching a good YouTube series, for example. Kids KNOW how to learn, when they are actually INTERESTED in the material. Most kids are not interested in the stuff that schools think they need to know and an online high school has to really work hard to get around this reality.

Competitive universities are generally aware of the quality of online high schools. It is a realm where you get what you pay for…

How do colleges see online AP classes on a high school transcript? Are they viewed the same as an AP class taken at school?

How do colleges see online AP classes on a high school transcript? Are they viewed the same as an AP class taken at school?2021-06-27 16:33:05Mr_相

As an application reader, the only way I know that a class was taken online vs. in-person is if the school name listed for the online course is different than for the rest of the HS courses on an applicant’s transcript. Still, the high school for which all of your application data is based (FRL, SAT average, HS index) are based on your current high school, so the online school won’t have any impact on any of that stuff.

Since I have no way of knowing the quality of every online high school, I treat them as if they are a standard, typical high school—which is to say I assess an AP class taken at an online HS or taken for HS credit online the same way as if it were taken in person at a physical high school.

Besides, the AP classes across the country, no matter where they are taught, must meet certain minimum requirements as dictated by the College Board, so I’m confident that an AP class online meets the same curriculum standards as one taken in person.

Why do people attend military high schools or colleges?

Why do people attend military high schools or colleges?2021-06-27 02:26:38Mr_沃

I think the military has a good track record with helping young people transition to adulthood. The structure and discipline and focus the military provides can translate to a military school. Many young people do especially well with that kind of structure.

As to high schools kids who have difficulty, are not doing well in their lives are one sort of youth that is directed to this kind of school. Others like the military aspect and may want to attend such a school. I think relatively few but surely some are doing it in anticipation of a military career. Such schools usually have strong academic programs, so some may choose the schools for that reason. Then there is the fact that they are largely boarding schools, and some families due to travel or work or other reasons find boarding is necessary.

As to colleges I would think often people who go to those schools either do it despite the military character — Texas A&M is a pretty good university on its own merits for example. and the military aspect may just be something you do (I know it’s mandatory for males, but I don’t think that applies all four years but I’m not sure); or they do it specifically to prep for the military. But as I think this through I suspect at least some will have some of the other motives I assigned to military high schools.

If your grades improve in your junior and senior years of high school, how do colleges view that?

If your grades improve in your junior and senior years of high school, how do colleges view that?2021-06-21 04:38:41Mr_蒋

It shows that you are maturing and if the better grades are consistent across the board, it shows determination, drive, persistent and consistent effort on your part to improve your study habits and your grades.
It’s often the best way to show that you can really handle the college grind (and it is a grind!).

College is much much harder than you think. Too many papers and exams at one time will compete for your attention along with your desire to let off a little steam by having fun . The choices you have been making show that you have learned how to weigh the value of attention to your studying for exams and papers versus the immediacy of having fun.
It’s called delayed gratification- and colleges want you to know that delayed gratification is essential to you doing well and graduating with a decent GPA (or even graduating at all)

Will colleges give that improvement in your GPA the value that you think it should have?
Probably not but you could reference it in your essay and/or have some letters of recommendation address it as part of their content. It’s important it be addressed in a couple of areas directly (one by you of course) so that they can pause and look at the improvement.

Congrats on getting your grades up. That’s dedication.

How will colleges consider GPA now that high schools are switching to pass/fail?

How will colleges consider GPA now that high schools are switching to pass/fail?2021-05-25 05:39:27Mr_艾

Pass/fail is for one semester. Even if the school disruption will continue longer than we anticipate now and will affect the fall semester - hopefully not! - by that time schools will figure out how to do assessments in online courses, and will be able to apply the normal grading system. It’s not like online courses cannot be graded - they can and they have been, for many years. School are switching to pass/fail for this semester because they want to take the pressure off and give students and teachers time to adjust in such extraordinary circumstances, and get at least some earning done in the weeks that are left till the end of the school year.

Normally, colleges make their decisions based on the grades for 7 semesters. So now they are going to consider the GPA from six semesters. Not a big deal.

How do most employers view a degree earned completely online?

How do most employers view a degree earned completely online?2021-07-08 19:38:57Mr_督

How does an employer know if your degree was earned completely online? My Master’s degree came from a state university, but I attended 2 class sessions (not classes, class sessions) in person throughout my entire degree. The only way my bosses would know is if I told them, and I don’t think they would care. In fact, don’t think most employers would care.

Honestly, I think completing a degree online takes more discipline than doing one in person. It’s so easy to forget assignments because you don’t have a class to attend, and in fact this happened to me several times during my Master’s (and not at all during my undergraduate). You really have to set your own schedule to get work done, because there’s no time set for you.

So I guess, to answer your question, even if they knew it was all online (how would they?), I don’t think they would view it any differently than a degree earned the traditional way. A degree is a degree, and it shows you’ve completed the necessary coursework to be recognized by the university to be a strong candidate in that area. It being done online doesn’t make it any less difficult, or any less valid. It’s just done a different way!

How do colleges view extracurriculars that are relatively strong but completely unrelated to the applicant's intended major?

How do colleges view extracurriculars that are relatively strong but completely unrelated to the applicant's intended major?2021-07-03 19:46:47Mr_宗

Your ECAs are not determined by your (eventual and hopeful future) major.

The hope is that your interests will reflect a variety of interests and passions, which in turn make you a multi-faceted, interesting individual.

How do Ivy League students view students from other Ivy League Schools?

How do Ivy League students view students from other Ivy League Schools?2021-07-24 20:56:42Mr_糜

In my experience, they don’t think of students at other Ivies — or any other higher education institutions — at all. They’re mostly too busy to do so. The only common exception would be students who are dating students at other institutions.

How do Ivy League students view students from other Ivy League Schools?

How do Ivy League students view students from other Ivy League Schools?2021-07-24 20:56:38Mr_焦

Mostly, they don't. I know a pretty good number of people from Harvard and Yale; surprisingly few from Columbia (but I think that's because New Yorkers never leave New York); a few each from Cornell, Princeton and Dartmouth, and no one at all from Brown.

My guess is that this is primarily due to the fact that Penn, Harvard, and Yale are among the most urban and have law schools. Having gone to law school, and having helped get people into law school, I know more law students from Harvard and Yale than I do undergrads.

How do I feel about them? I tend to like Yale students a bit better than the Harvard students, but that's because Yale students, even at the law school level, tend to be a bit more nonconformist. Harvard students are more often looking for success and wealth, and I'm not particularly interested in either of those things.

Cornell and Princeton people tend to have a bit more of an inflated sense of themselves; all two of the Dartmouth students I know are perfect gentlemen.

If you're asking whether we like or dislike each other, except for classic football rivalries, I don't think there is any particular sense of one school's liking another. I really do think Penn has the best campus of the lot, but that's because I like the less urban feeling with all the comforts of the city three blocks away. I also like the eclectic architecture; campuses like Princeton and Harvard, where all the buildings look the same, drive me nuts, because I get lost all the time.

Somehow, I suspect this is not the question you're asking. But if you're asking whether Penn students think they are better than Cornell students, I think there is either no answer or a foolish one.

Do colleges actually "blacklist" certain high schools?

Do colleges actually "blacklist" certain high schools?2021-06-20 09:18:02Mr_梅

Maybe not blacklist as such, but they probably start to look at applications from certain schools more skeptically if too many previously accepted students from those schools do poorly once enrolled. If the counselors’ and teachers’ recommendations sing Suzy’s praises to the sky and then Suzy barely scrapes by as an undergraduate, and Suzy is then followed by Johnny, Lizzy, and Tommy, who are also, according to their recommendations and transcripts, “in the top 1% of students I have ever taught,” to quote the teacher recommendation of the Common App., but then also flunk out or barely scrape through, it’s bound to raise suspicions. And then future students who apply from that school will be less likely to be accepted. So schools really need to maintain their credibility with the college Admissions offices if they want their students to have an equal chance at being accepted. They’re doing future students a disservice if they represent the current students as more qualified than they actually are.

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